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    The GP Nerf.

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    1 hour ago, F F S said:

    I don't know why you're taking in account items when this thread is specifically about gold income.

    Not really doing that though. As I said, I was ignoring item drops, but just quickly mentioned that it would double overall profits at the end.

     

    1 hour ago, F F S said:

    second of all, if you think thieving was effort, I can guarantee you there were autoclickers that never have been caught. Which is probably also one of the reasons why the anti-macro is ingame now.

    Effort as in you would need to be activiely playing the entire time. Active play should always give higher rewards than afking. Also, the whole autoclicker thing is completely different issue that should be addressed seperately. Not saying you said this, but just because another problem might be bigger, doesnt mean this one should be ignored.

    Havent played too much the last few days, but hasnt thieving also received a huge nerf (like 80% nerf in gp) just like the coin drops? 

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    The GP Nerf.

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    On 5/17/2021 at 11:28 PM, big log dog said:

    no disrespect on your post i get it, but ive never seen anyone complain about the cash drops ever

    You're either the most forgetful person alive, or you're just lying to further whatever agenda that benefits you the most. Just a few days ago, you, me and others discussed it in another thread. Don't say you've never heard people complaining when you were just arguing in a thread that was complaining about it.

     

    On 5/17/2021 at 10:36 PM, hamderhans said:

    Coin drops wasnt a problem before, but removing it added a massive problem support

    Yes it was, and you know it. Its been one of the most discussed topics, which you've even taken part in. 

     

    On 5/18/2021 at 4:52 AM, big log dog said:

    also remember this is a rsps not supposed to sit and take weeks, months, to earn stuff

    Ofc you should need to work/grind for certain things. Just because its an rsps doesnt mean you should be able to get everything you want with minimal effort. I currently have over 400 hours on the server and I keep playing on it because grinding for something and finally reaching my goal feels rewarding, also, I can't think of a single thing that takes more than a week to get anyways, other than "get x amount of exp" ofc.

     

    On 5/18/2021 at 9:40 AM, hamderhans said:

    zilyana gave me 18m coin drops ea hour

    18m times two, for two accounts, is 36m. Lets say you kill her with melee, to avoid rune cost and subtract the upkeep cost, you end up with ca 30m/hr.

    Being able to just collect 30m/h with no work every hour is a huge problem and a big part of why this nerf happened.

    This is also ignoring the drops, which would easily double how much you earn per hour. 

     

    4 hours ago, F F S said:

    I'm genuinely curious about the numbers of the actual gold income from a certain npc prior to the nerf. If anything thieving stall was an issue, Bruce Wayne himself just said he made 2b in 2 days of thieving. I can tell you i did not make more than 20m pure gold/hr pvming.

    If you're bossing then you'll make a lot more than 20m/hr.

    Lets say that what Bruce said is true, 2b in 2 days. That would take him 40 hours of intense playing without messing up/taking a break, assuming it was 50m/h for thieving. 20 hours if he played on two accounts, which would require even more effort and attention, or 13,3 hours, if he played on 3 accounts at the same time, which I doubt. I dont believe he made 2B in two days. I atleast wouldnt bother to put that much effort into it, but lets say he did. 

    Imo, making 30-40m/hr afking on one account with no input/effort is worse for the game than being able to make 50m/h if you're actively playing nonstop.

     

     

    PS: Sorry in advance for all the spelling/grammatical errors in this post. Learned from the past that putting more than the minimal effort needed into responding to certain people just isnt worth it.

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    Moss Golem Area in Lost Grove.

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    I'm curious to what subject I brought up that lead you to blaming ironmen for negatively affecting the economy, I'm sure it has nothing to do with me being one. :)

    But enough about that, I can see that our convo is not going to lead to anything productive so let's just agree to disagree and move on.

    Moss Golem Area in Lost Grove.

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    4 minutes ago, big log dog said:

    the funny thing is. the big  farming holders lets call them dont sell there shit like what  yall are thinking we stockpile our drops. ask anyone including me.  most ppl know i personal sell nothing i get.  market is not the issue cinderbanes are at a good prices atm btw i should know i crashed them down to 14m a pop a few months back and now look 30-60mea hmmm eco is fine farming is fine plus with never invention coming out alot of the farmable items will be taken out of the game.

     

    Lets say for the sake of the arguments that what you're saying is true, which I doubt. You still get a bunch of gp every hour which adds up, and also take up spots for killing mobs.

    I might be missing something but how/Why will a lot of the farmable items be taken out of the game when the new invention update comes?

    Moss Golem Area in Lost Grove.

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    Not sure where that came from. If anyones pointing fingers here, its you, suddenly swapping over to blame ironmen for some reason. 

     

    11 minutes ago, hamderhans said:

    if you cant afk on alts what would you need alts for?

    There's a lot more reasons to have alts than to just afk on them. Most have a main, ironman, skiller, classic account ect. I do agree that some people put work into an alt, but when one does not need to put in much work to just set it up for afk farming, which is the topic here.

     

    14 minutes ago, hamderhans said:

    only real problem to the eco is ironmen being able to dropping stuff to sell

    Only reasonably thing I can ironmen dropping to sell is unique boss drops (armor/weps ect.), which I would be willing to bet is just a tiny minority compared to normal accounts getting drops and selling them, meaning ironmen barely have an impact in the grand scheme of things.

     

    It would be nice if we could just have a nice productive discussion about this instead of changing topic everytime I argue against your points. 

     

     

    Moss Golem Area in Lost Grove.

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    18 minutes ago, hamderhans said:

    and he never got a pair of gloves as a drop before? or are we asuming this to make it a pretty story?

     

    From the sounds of it, it seems like he were just trying to get some for the first time. I think its more believable than what you're asuming, but hey, I could be wrong.

     

    15 minutes ago, hamderhans said:

    common sense is used here we de dont need to make everything pvp

    I agree, I dont think making it pvp is a good idea.

     

    15 minutes ago, hamderhans said:

    or prevent people from afking, if you dont like to afk dont, if others do how can it bother you.

    Of course it affects people, it's even the very reason behind this thread. The problem itself isnt with just afk'ing, its about players using two alts to afk farm things.

    It completely flips the economy. If I were to make two alts to afk farm bandos all day every day, the gear would drop down to under 1m ea. If I were to use two alts to afk farm mobs, it would, 1. Take up that spot for the entire time I'm online, and 2. Heavly decrease the value of anything said mob drop and/or adding a bunch of gp into the game, making gold less valuable. And note, thats just from one player, imagine if the whole server did it.

    So if you ask me, its pretty obvious how it can bother other people. 

    Moss Golem Area in Lost Grove.

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    49 minutes ago, hamderhans said:

    he kinda did claiming people farming them is a problem when thats the exact thing he want to do himself

    We both know there's a difference in going on your main and killing them to get a pair of gloves for yourself, and putting an alt there to just afk farm all day for money.

     

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    Moss Golem Area in Lost Grove.

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    Let's try to ignore the petty drama and instead focus on the point of the thread. All sides acted badly so let's just move away from casting blame.

     

    7 hours ago, daltball420 said:

    Point is they are also making that item basically obsolete by owning that many, they could very well ruin the economy.

    The prices on cinderbanes have already crashed and arent worth anything anymore purely based on the sheer amount of them ingame atm.

     

    13 minutes ago, Xaris said:

    "There's no instancing for moss golems in RS3" - Sterling

    ^Because there are hundreds of worlds to do them on..

    The argument that something shouldn't be on the server simply becasue it doesn't exist in runescape is silly. Runescape isn't perfect and not everything in it is good for the game.

     

    I just want to make clear that this is just my opinion!

    I believe something needs to be done about the meta of afk farming gold/mats/uniques on alt accounts while playing normally on the main, or who knows, afk on that one too lol.

    There's no reason to blame the players for farming it. As long as its allowed and easy to do, why wouldnt you want to place a couple of alts somewhere to just "generate" wealth for you without having to to anything?

     

    This problem of overcrowding is just going to get worse and worse the more the server grows.

    I ofc don't know what the perfect solution would be, but it could be anything from either;

    • Making it instanced
    • Making it slayer only
    • Spreading them out
    • Making the rules stricter about farming on alts or just alts in general

    These are just examples.

     

    Bigger problem however is if something gets changed to just the golems, people would simply move over to other mobs and camp those instead and we would end up with the same issue again.

     

    This is just my two cents about this matter. Thanks for listening my Ted talk! ;)

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    Moss Golem Area in Lost Grove.

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    I'm under the opinion that afk farming mobs/bosses on alts shouldn't be possible/allowed since it just negatively impacts the game in so many different ways.

    I don't like the idea that someone can get rich by just clicking a couple of times every 15 mins on ea account, and it also just stops other people from killing the same mob as stated above.

    I believe I'm in the minority on this, but its just my opinion.

     

    So if it wasn't clear, I agree something should be done <3

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