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"I believe, personally, that those who oppose this idea, while allowed to have opinions, aren't giving the update enough time to settle and adjust." The prior nerf, where gp income from stuff like GWD was nerfed, was like 2 weeks prior. I'm not attacking anyone but, if 2 weeks time is enough to see an eco settle and adjust, i'm surprised. More than anything thieving is still meta gp/hr. prior and after nerf. The issue was never pvm or people afking. People just complained about it because they saw insanely high KCs, which I believe is not a fair assumption. To this day I still hear people using the argument that zily was the issue, whilst most of them have <100 kc in zily.

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You guys had good intentions. I believe that. But you gotta understand, a lot of gp is not coming into game anymore with these nerfs. Invention, being a huge money sink, is going to effectively eat even more of it, but with less gp injection in the eco, its going to be even harder to do it. Not to mention, this is going to hurt players. A lot of people did the methods they did so that gp was consistently flowing into the economy. Now? There's nothing. There's nobody. Everything will crash. EVERYTHING. And PvM will effectively die out; cause with no flow of gp, prices will go down to make up for it. And suddenly, there's no incentive anymore. What was so good about the previous gp income was every monster in the game had a purpose. Now that's almost lost strictly to slayer tasks. Is that the only option? Where's the flexibility now? And if this has to stay, increase the amount of monsters per slayer task! Buying or selling, both sides are heavily affected by this, and it's not going to work for much longer. Power to the players is the moral here. We know what's good for the game, and we're noticing the problem already. And some are already thinking of leaving because of this. There needs to be a change.

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I'm genuinely curious about the numbers of the actual gold income from a certain npc prior to the nerf. If anything thieving stall was an issue, Bruce Wayne himself just said he made 2b in 2 days of thieving. I can tell you i did not make more than 20m pure gold/hr pvming. context: i mentioned bruce wayne making 2b in 1 week of thieving then he corrected me to 2 days. Next point; there was already a gp nerf prior to this complete nerf. that nerf didn't even last like 7 days, yet we can't take conclusions about this nerf like couple days after it happened?

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This sounds like you're questioning the integrity of the staff team and how we run things by misunderstanding that all it takes is a little foresight to see that changes were going to be made because AFK gold farming was becoming more and more of an issue. I would reply to your statement with a blanket reply, but Sprout has covered pretty much every basis that I would've, so instead I'm going to adapt a different approach: understanding. I believe, personally, that those who oppose this idea, while allowed to have opinions, aren't giving the update enough time to settle and adjust. Item values will drop because coin value is going to be reduced, meaning, as Sandstorm himself said, the item values are going to remain the same. Money methods are going to adapt and change, yes, but people AFKing for money without putting effort for their reward isn't how we want this game to operate. We've attempted to be as fair and balanced as possible when it came to discussing this update, because we want to create a challenging, engaging experience where your accomplishments actually mean something. And as an example, in my opinion, finishing Masterwork / Earth and Song grind are much, much more personally fulfilling than obtaining your first tier-92 because you actually have to put effort into the creation, which translates into real progress that you can see as it develops. I think that making money should operate the same way. Like Sandstorm said, this update was necessary. It'll just take time to settle.

Afking zilyana for hours sure was real good for the economy, people running around with billions of spirit shards. All monsters having a purpose? No. Nobody did cows for GP, nobody did rock crabs for GP, they did the best methods possible. You now have to actually pay attention to the game if you want raw gp coming in, or you know, utilise other methods that help with coin income! And as for 'items crashing', only visually, the item worth remains the same just in lower numbers. Oh and don't even start with the 'people already thinking of quitting', that bs happens every time something they've been doing over and over, taking advantage of, getting changed. It's just how people are - greedy. The change NEEDED to be done, better late than never.

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